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joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan and yoda. i so revere him. i'll go with obi wan. >> i respect him as well, so we decided he was luke skywalker. >> oh my gosh. >> cenk: the guy who was going to heal the planet. >> that's right. which is mocked by the right. what is so terrible. >> cenk: it would be great if we healed the planet. it would be terrific. mark hamill. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and the elbow of the day. oh, eliot spitzer. >> eliot: you almost forgot about it. cenk, i'm not going to let you forget that again. your you're going to be sitting next to me tomorrow night. you better be nice to me. we have governor granholm coming up about what it's like
joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan...
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i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney did in his debate. >> chris: there is the perception that bide season a loose cannon and a gaffe machine and i asked paul ryan about this last week and he said not in the highly visible highly structured events. he is disciplined and has been studying all of his debates. what do you expect from the vice president? >> i think that is true and if you you remember a lot of his gaffes, a, usually aren't covered by the media and b, are often sort of humorous but not damaging in the sense that he is changing policy or putting something out
i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney...
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joe biden facing off against paul ryan. a much more heated match compared to the one between president obama and mitt romney. they talked about national security, foreign policy, taxes, jobs, and clashed over whether the new healthcare reform law put medicare on sounder footing. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, turning medicare into a piggy bank for obamacare. their own actuaries said 1-6 hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business as a result of this >> that's not what they said. >> millions of seniors are projected to lose the coverage they have. >> that didn't happen. more people signed up . whoa, whoa. more people signed up for medicare advantage after the change. nobody is saying that. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost rounds. [ laughter ] >> i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting >> don't take all the 4 minutes then. >> don't change benefits for people. >> the next debate is the second presidential debate. that's going to take
joe biden facing off against paul ryan. a much more heated match compared to the one between president obama and mitt romney. they talked about national security, foreign policy, taxes, jobs, and clashed over whether the new healthcare reform law put medicare on sounder footing. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, turning medicare into a piggy bank for obamacare. their own actuaries said 1-6 hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business as a result of this...
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joe biden is one of the people who felt they shouldn't be numbering jobs. they should be talking about the new new deal aspects of it and sympathetic to that view as well. these were understandable mistakes but they were mistakes. anything else? >> [inaudible] >> give everybody a job. private enterprise has to give people jobs. you agree or disagree? >> i agree. one of the things, a lot of debate in the administration that this didn't create government jobs. saves in government jobs at the state level but in the obama era you actually lost public-sector jobs. government has gotten smaller. the private sector may not have done fine as obama said the other day but it is doing better than the public sector. instead, there are funny moments in this book where in the fall of 2009 the same people who did the rubber bernstein report that was so stupid but chris the roemer and jared bernstein were thinking about can we do a wta type of thing. something like that in the act will stimulus where the data wage subsidy program where states and nonprofits could hire peop
joe biden is one of the people who felt they shouldn't be numbering jobs. they should be talking about the new new deal aspects of it and sympathetic to that view as well. these were understandable mistakes but they were mistakes. anything else? >> [inaudible] >> give everybody a job. private enterprise has to give people jobs. you agree or disagree? >> i agree. one of the things, a lot of debate in the administration that this didn't create government jobs. saves in...
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people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a very different trajectory. that bounce after the first debate is continuing on. there has been about a four or five-point shift in the race following that debate. i don't think like some people on the right that that is permanent or that that is a lock. but the race changed fundamentally after that debate. and the president's job next tuesday is see if he can change it back. >> kevin, what does the president to v to do on tuesday to do that? >> the president has to decide if he still wants to be president. i mean that bizarre performance. >> he needs the fire in the belly. >> that bizarre performance signa
people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a...
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he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is now lead big two points there among likely voters. the romney camp pushing it. how much success are they having with that part of the debate. with the again benn ga city stuff? >> definitely. you saw it coming into and out of that vice-presidential debate. paul ryan had the branding as this economic policy wonk and yet the first question that he faced was the administration's handling of the libyan attack and the assault on benghazi and he ended up taking the case to the vice president through the beginning of that debate and that's
he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is...
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biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and dha sep rnd . rvo fnd and mitt romney opposed it. >> greta: the president admits he had a bad night. how does he recover? >> he has a sports mentality. i thi it was smart to publicly ny thisdoabit thhe cin pithe go at romney. but the obama campaign of attack romney, after he won the debate. i thought that was an odd strategy because we will have to see president obama on the attack. th's what rishre wdegp, se in date.m that's where obama has to be on the attack, but also not look too mean because he does have the likeable edge over mitt romney. he can't lose that. >> greta: how do do youhat pren antk
biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and...
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joe biden, he wants to be president some day. he is not going to out there and take a chance to ruin 2016 for himself. he'll be aggressive. there is no reason to numberable ball. no reason to show off. keep it straight by the numbers. >> bob: he is smarter. have you read today's polls? >> greg: dana, you have limited experience with politics. do you think slogans are meaningless? g.m. is alive and bin laden is dead at this point. >> dana: i hope they don't use that. they need new material. we're hearing the same thing from 2008. like watching soap opera if you didn't pay attention and you just watched the last presidential election and tune in to the debate and you would have thought you watch something from 2008. it was the same language. biden will be much more prepared. what you said in the monologue is important. every republican, in particular, paul ryan tonight, start in the credibility hole with the media. he has to work that much harder just to get to parity. >> greg: the wedding woman, the eyes are now pointed. is he goi
joe biden, he wants to be president some day. he is not going to out there and take a chance to ruin 2016 for himself. he'll be aggressive. there is no reason to numberable ball. no reason to show off. keep it straight by the numbers. >> bob: he is smarter. have you read today's polls? >> greg: dana, you have limited experience with politics. do you think slogans are meaningless? g.m. is alive and bin laden is dead at this point. >> dana: i hope they don't use that. they need...
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. >> sheet faxed both candidate asked both candidatesi think joe biden smile was the big winner. twitter was blowing up with questions. i think joe biden did very well. >> if you like to connect with michael you can go at michaelyaki.com >> there were more than 60 commons within a half hour. >> ryan's closing statement was strong. >> by dan clearly won the debate he came out strong and he was knowledgeable. >> there is a quick reminder that the next presidential debate between obama and romney will be this coming tuesday october the 16th and ito that was the victorious seeing in cincinnati this afternoon. right now i am outside ofat & t park. this is what it looked like when the giants beat the reds in the bottom of the ninth. >> back live now the giants will return here on sunday if st. louis beats the nationals. >> team coverage with the oakland a's taking on the detroit tigers. i would be having a better time if oakland a's were winning. they are down by two at this time. >> san francisco did but now it is oakland time. teaching most definitely on the green is for the money. >
. >> sheet faxed both candidate asked both candidatesi think joe biden smile was the big winner. twitter was blowing up with questions. i think joe biden did very well. >> if you like to connect with michael you can go at michaelyaki.com >> there were more than 60 commons within a half hour. >> ryan's closing statement was strong. >> by dan clearly won the debate he came out strong and he was knowledgeable. >> there is a quick reminder that the next...
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joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play, and this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would turn on a show i wanted to watch. >> it depends on your perspective. i was fascinated, i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i have a medical question. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of a certain age maintain such a high level of indignation continuously without getting a heart attack? can you believe what he is doing, all of this stuff? i think he needs to go easy, and i say that as a punt medical opinion, not political. we are going to raise your taxes by a trillion dollars. i am sure obama loved hearing that. >> did they underestimate mitt romney? >> he can be very good in this setting. he is not to
joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play, and this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would turn on a show i wanted to watch. >> it depends on your perspective. i was fascinated, i was seized....
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highly unlikely i'm sure though though i'm sure joe biden will will make reference to it just because he's noble foreign policy. defense and he's he pushed them or a program. the army marines didn't necessarily want some sort of bring it up but i don't imagine will be will be too large a piece of what do you think that before i was ron paul's kind of rallying point we heard him kind of this was what he tried to press over and over and over again the fact that we should take a look at defense spending now you know we're down to the republican and democratic vice presidential candidate you think it will be part of the discussion i think it will be but i think paul's probably right it probably won't take center center stage jobs are going to be the key issue tonight possibly health care in taxes some of those other issues but hopefully we do hear more about it because it's a critical issue absolutely and i guess we're going to have to tune in tonight to find out gentlemen appreciate both of you coming into the studio that was ben freeman the national security investigator for the project
highly unlikely i'm sure though though i'm sure joe biden will will make reference to it just because he's noble foreign policy. defense and he's he pushed them or a program. the army marines didn't necessarily want some sort of bring it up but i don't imagine will be will be too large a piece of what do you think that before i was ron paul's kind of rallying point we heard him kind of this was what he tried to press over and over and over again the fact that we should take a look at defense...
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joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him and barack obama in the debate. >> i hope it is an existing debate. there were 50 million people watching the first debate. the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play. this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would watch a show that i wanted to. >> it depends on your perspective. i found it fascinating. i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i think he might be slightly skewed. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of uncertain age maintain such a high level of indignation, continuously, without getting a heart attack? can you believe he is doing all this stuff? i think he needs to go easy. i say that as a medical opinion, not a political opinion. laying in the weeds he said that we will raise your taxes. i am sure that obama love to hear that. >> did we underestimate mitt romney? it has even this could all along? >> he can be good
joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him and barack obama in the debate. >> i hope it is an existing debate. there were 50 million people watching the first debate. the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play. this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would watch a show that i wanted to. >> it depends on your perspective. i found it fascinating. i was seized. my...
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vice president joe biden and paul ryan prepare to square off tonight in kentucky. new poll numbers show the current vp has his work cut out for him. according to a new survey from the pugh center, 39% of registered voters view biden favorably. that's compared to 44% who favor ryan. when it comes to predicting the winner of tonight's debate, 40% of registered voters say ryan will come out on top. 34% think biden will prevail. nbc's tracie potts has a preview of tonight's debate. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the pressure is on vice president biden to try to turn things around after the presidential debate last week. he has the experience on the debate stage to do so. but as you saw in the numbers, it looks like the public is betting more on paul ryan. ryan took a bit of an exertion yesterday while he was practicing in florida saying that the vice president will probably come at me like a cannonball. but that the obama record, as ryan put it, is his achilles heel. ryan is in kentucky after debate preps in florida and virginia. he's done three mock debates.
vice president joe biden and paul ryan prepare to square off tonight in kentucky. new poll numbers show the current vp has his work cut out for him. according to a new survey from the pugh center, 39% of registered voters view biden favorably. that's compared to 44% who favor ryan. when it comes to predicting the winner of tonight's debate, 40% of registered voters say ryan will come out on top. 34% think biden will prevail. nbc's tracie potts has a preview of tonight's debate. good morning....
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. >>> the a's battled to keep their postseason hopes alive, joe biden battled paul ryan. to keep president obama's hopes alive. the vice presidential debate, everything the obama romney matchup wasn't. it was fiery, animated and a good old fashioned political brawl. we have team coverage for you tonight. steve handlesman shows us the best of the debates. some fans tried to juggle both of those events. >> we did a pretty good job with election day less than one month away. some a's fans made watching that debate a priority. tuning in to that spirited exchange while monitoring the score. a's fans cheered on the big game. fans could also tune in to the vice presidential debate. >> it's cool, i can't hear it, though. >> my eyes are going back and forth. so many tv's here. >> he plans to watch joe biden and paul ryan later. >> over at the white hills in oakland, the family is watching baseball and politics. >> we wanted to watch both the debate and the ball game, we love the a's, and it's so season to be in the postseason, the debate is also important. >> diego provided a's hi
. >>> the a's battled to keep their postseason hopes alive, joe biden battled paul ryan. to keep president obama's hopes alive. the vice presidential debate, everything the obama romney matchup wasn't. it was fiery, animated and a good old fashioned political brawl. we have team coverage for you tonight. steve handlesman shows us the best of the debates. some fans tried to juggle both of those events. >> we did a pretty good job with election day less than one month away. some...
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and joe biden said right, and sort of acted like he hadn't heard what he just heard. if you were paying attention, that was a good moment and in general, when he stayed on the question of jobs, the congressman was credible tonight. >> joe joining us, thank you. back to you. it was a fun night in politics. >> thank you, grace. >>> the other big contest came with a very unhappy ending for the oakland a's. their phenomenal season came up short tonight with a game five loss to the detroit tigers. kristen ayres is in reaction with how fans are reacting to the heartbreaking loss. >> reporter: a lot of these were waving around, people were believing for another walkoff in that 9th inning. instead, they got a shutout. >> optimism doesn't begin to describe it. religious is more like it. these fans watch that wednesday night walkoff. >> coming around. >> and they believe. >> come back and dominate. they have all the momentum. >> the momentum and home field advantage. but could they turn that into an american league pennant? a boost this city could really use. >> i think it is g
and joe biden said right, and sort of acted like he hadn't heard what he just heard. if you were paying attention, that was a good moment and in general, when he stayed on the question of jobs, the congressman was credible tonight. >> joe joining us, thank you. back to you. it was a fun night in politics. >> thank you, grace. >>> the other big contest came with a very unhappy ending for the oakland a's. their phenomenal season came up short tonight with a game five loss to...
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but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice? >> up to a point. there is good joe and bad joe. so joe needs to moderate his joe-ness. his strength is that i think he can come across as a little bit more of an every man than the president and he will go after paul ryan on the ryan plan and the budget that ryan and romney are running on, saying it favors the wealthy and it will cut medicare, a very popular entitlements program. you don't want joe doing his gaffe thing, getting carried away. i think he does that more often in crowd it's. >> and speeches. >> he is pretty goods in the debates and against palin last time around. >> i think there is -- it's a fascinatin
but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice?...
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>> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve, thank you for your time tonight. >> sure. >>> catch steve on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 eastern right here on msnbc. >>> still ahead, was there an intervention in the romney campaign? news tonight about a big fight inside team romney. >>> rudy giuliani, think about it, there is only three, a noun, a verbal and 9/11, nothing else. i've been negotiating since you were in congress. if you all had been around enough -- maybe i've been around too long, they forget all the wonderful things i've done -- but all siding aside -- walk around in my neighborhood or go up to scranton with me. these pe
>> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve, thank you for your time tonight....
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paul ryan and joe biden were not at the top of the ticket, but the reviews were instant in both style and substance, we begin with ron mott traveling with the campaign in ohio, good evening, ron. >> reporter: brian, good evening to you, as you can see behind me, governor mitt romney behind me in front of a very big crowd, about 8500 people, we're told. and we can tell you there is more confidence in the air around the republican ticket tonight, very pleased on how congressman paul ryan handled himself last night against a very seasoned debater, joe biden. reunited again after what the romney campaign says was a big win in kentucky last night, in a 90-minute marathon of disagreements over everything from social security and taxes. >> it has never been done before. >> reporter: the candidates fought over whether the obama administration dismissed security concerns at the u.s. consulate in libya. >> we were not told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> reporter: it was topic number one, a charged moment in the night for the wisconsin congressman. >> ro
paul ryan and joe biden were not at the top of the ticket, but the reviews were instant in both style and substance, we begin with ron mott traveling with the campaign in ohio, good evening, ron. >> reporter: brian, good evening to you, as you can see behind me, governor mitt romney behind me in front of a very big crowd, about 8500 people, we're told. and we can tell you there is more confidence in the air around the republican ticket tonight, very pleased on how congressman paul ryan...
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and if you are joe biden our boss on an off week. so ou have to knock it out of the park without saying anything crazy. andy is joining us from california. i am rooting for, i don't care if you are left or right from this we never had someone from fast-food world assume a cabinet position, and someone who is dominating the fast-food world for years and stays thin. andy, it is good to have you. what are you expecting out of paul ryan tonight? >> first of all, neil, it is great to be here, as soon as get a break you need to run out to a hardee's in danville, and get a burger. >> you are right they are here. paul ryan needs to stick to the big issues of a choice of 4 more years of the last 4 years, which we can't really deal with. to moving on to economic growth, and people having jobs, and people getting off welfare instead of encouraging them to be on welfare, he need to be careful to try not to address every inaccuracy or untruth that joe biden comes up with. if he handles it like the governor did in the original debate, states the p
and if you are joe biden our boss on an off week. so ou have to knock it out of the park without saying anything crazy. andy is joining us from california. i am rooting for, i don't care if you are left or right from this we never had someone from fast-food world assume a cabinet position, and someone who is dominating the fast-food world for years and stays thin. andy, it is good to have you. what are you expecting out of paul ryan tonight? >> first of all, neil, it is great to be here,...
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that now goes to joe biden. the happiest clappiest guy i have ever seen. >> stephanie: yeah isn't that something. we were just comparing it to the great bill clinton tape. there really is something to be said for jumping down. >> bill clinton jumping up and down? >> stephanie: yes. >> and the guy has had bypass surgery, can you calm it down a notch, bill. but exactly, he was amazing. who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes. joe biden did everything you predicted, stephanie. you predicted this was going to happen. >> stephanie: i said he is going to make mincemeat out of him. >> you did. and who eats mincemeat anyway? >> stephanie: i don't know. >> here is what is so interesting about the whole process. is you get these moments. there was one moment late in the debate, and you talked about it earlier on where they got into choice, they got into abortion and here was paul ryan saying our ticket believes absolutely we don't want unelected judges making this decision. wouldn't you have loved to have a tap
that now goes to joe biden. the happiest clappiest guy i have ever seen. >> stephanie: yeah isn't that something. we were just comparing it to the great bill clinton tape. there really is something to be said for jumping down. >> bill clinton jumping up and down? >> stephanie: yes. >> and the guy has had bypass surgery, can you calm it down a notch, bill. but exactly, he was amazing. who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes. joe biden did everything you...
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and that is paul ryan's challenge, he is youthful, compared to joe biden. and he was not helped yesterday. mitt romney says he was not sure if paul ryan had had a debate, maybe back in high school. you don't want to bring up the phrase "high school" when you want to look presidential? >> all right, chuck todd, who will be part of our team during the live coverage of the debate tomorrow, 9 eastern time, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> today, in washington, a lot of republicans in congress had a lot of questions about the obama mission, about the night in benghazi, when a sudden and ferocious attack took the lives of our u.s. ambassador, and at the american consulate there, along with three other americans. our report tonight from our chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: sparking the confrontation, the two security officers from the consulate who said the requests were either turned down or ignored. >> we were fighting a losing battle. we couldn't even keep what we had. we were not allowed to keep what we had
and that is paul ryan's challenge, he is youthful, compared to joe biden. and he was not helped yesterday. mitt romney says he was not sure if paul ryan had had a debate, maybe back in high school. you don't want to bring up the phrase "high school" when you want to look presidential? >> all right, chuck todd, who will be part of our team during the live coverage of the debate tomorrow, 9 eastern time, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> today, in...
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. >> paul ryan, joe biden going at each other in their one and only debate. biden shows why he earned his nickname. and ryan fires right back. >> we will have much more on the vice presidential debate, coming up. >>> but first, what a day for bay area baseball. tears of joy and, well, tears of saddens. a miracle comeback. then it was the a's turn. the sad end to a phenomenal season for the a's. dennis? >> possibly an improbable victory over the tigers. but the tigers had the reining krie young winner. i'm talking about justin verlander. he got the win in game 1. a complete shutout against the a's lineup. he struck out eleven in the game. 22 in the series. tigers broke it open in the seventy. prince fielders, tigers had a 6- 0 lead. and the a's season is over. >> i think we surprised a lot of people outside of this clubhouse. obviously we would have liked to have continued on. the goal is to make it all the way and get that ring on your finger and have that parade. but it comes to an end for us. it's difficult to swallow. >> scott rolen said after game three,
. >> paul ryan, joe biden going at each other in their one and only debate. biden shows why he earned his nickname. and ryan fires right back. >> we will have much more on the vice presidential debate, coming up. >>> but first, what a day for bay area baseball. tears of joy and, well, tears of saddens. a miracle comeback. then it was the a's turn. the sad end to a phenomenal season for the a's. dennis? >> possibly an improbable victory over the tigers. but the tigers...
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i wish we had joe biden, instead of close captions, you had joe biden interpreting everything that paul ryan said. it would be great if we had joe biden comments. it's important to not let these candidate get away showing that their actions don't -- they are playing politics all the time. >> yeah. and another favorite moment for me, dana, was the jack kennedy moment when ryan struggles to defend romney's tax plan. >> how is that? >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these preferences for middle class workers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple times before. >> jack kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think
i wish we had joe biden, instead of close captions, you had joe biden interpreting everything that paul ryan said. it would be great if we had joe biden comments. it's important to not let these candidate get away showing that their actions don't -- they are playing politics all the time. >> yeah. and another favorite moment for me, dana, was the jack kennedy moment when ryan struggles to defend romney's tax plan. >> how is that? >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still...
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what do you expect from this week's vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan in. >> well, i am sure tha vice president biden got a phone call from the white house, and said, you know, look, we didn't go after governor romney as much and you have to turn up the heat. because, you know, the debates are about controlling the ground. whoever is viewed as the one who controls the debate, who is on the offense and i don't necessarily mean attacking your opponent, governor romney didn't attack the president the entire night. governor romney stayed on his message, and, whoever stays on message is going to be viewed as the victor and so i'm sure that vice president biden has been coached to get back on message and to go after paul an, now, how much he can do that, we'll see. and, you know, i'm sure that congressman ryan has been preparing on the policy side and preparing mentally for this and it is the first time he'll have been on the stage and, you know, i think both men will be prepared. >> chris: briefly looking ahead to the next presidential debate on october 16th, nine days
what do you expect from this week's vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan in. >> well, i am sure tha vice president biden got a phone call from the white house, and said, you know, look, we didn't go after governor romney as much and you have to turn up the heat. because, you know, the debates are about controlling the ground. whoever is viewed as the one who controls the debate, who is on the offense and i don't necessarily mean attacking your opponent, governor romney...
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joe biden just needs to be joe biden. >> reporter: they described his mood as upbeat. whether joe biden and ryan uses first names, remains to be scene. the moderator will introduce him as congressman, although he is far less experienced than joe biden, ryan's advisers don't seem worried. >> he can talk about all his years in washington, all the multiple times he has run for president, the tough decisions he has made. they have a record that is bad for the country, he will have to defend it. >> what he can't run from is the president's record. >> reporter: aides say mr. ryan spent the afternoon relaxing with family, working in time for last minute studying. he even hit the gym, just as an old-time picture hits the stands, and a pep talk from his seven-year-old son, sam. now we're on the college campus, of course, which means certain traditions need to be upheld. a couple of days ago, a student brought the picture of fred vincent into the debate hall. he has not missed a home football game here since he passed away. now finally, president obama will watch tonight's debat
joe biden just needs to be joe biden. >> reporter: they described his mood as upbeat. whether joe biden and ryan uses first names, remains to be scene. the moderator will introduce him as congressman, although he is far less experienced than joe biden, ryan's advisers don't seem worried. >> he can talk about all his years in washington, all the multiple times he has run for president, the tough decisions he has made. they have a record that is bad for the country, he will have to...
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joe biden has been on these big stages. it's my first time. but what he can't run from is president obama's record. they're just offering more of the same. >> if president obama is sweating tonight's debate, he's not showing it. >> i think joe just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. >> mitt romney's debate performance last week re-energized his campaign, but our brand new swing state polls show it didn't change a lot of minds. 92% of voters in ohio and florida made up their minds before the debate. 91% in virginia. overall, the dial did move slightly in romney's favor in florida and virginia, the race is virtually tied. but president obama leads ohio by six points in the nbc news "wall street journal" maris poll. joining me to talk about all of it, e.j.dion and dana milbank. gentlemen, good morning. remember the old commercial never let them see you sweat? dana, how much pressure is joe biden under tonight? >> he's been at this an awfully long time. and he's sort of an old pro
joe biden has been on these big stages. it's my first time. but what he can't run from is president obama's record. they're just offering more of the same. >> if president obama is sweating tonight's debate, he's not showing it. >> i think joe just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. >> mitt romney's debate performance last week re-energized his campaign, but our brand new swing state polls show it didn't change...
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and you notice joe biden did not use that. he said mularkey which is another way of saying the same thing. i think they will turn off a lot of independents if they keep pushing this lier and dishonesty lying. >> the governor of pennsylvania said, instead of just going on attack, what obama really needs in the next two debates is to actually tell people what he's going to do in a second term. >> exactly. >> to say why this next four years is actually going to make your life better than the last four years. >> right. liar doesn't do that. look, liar is a cheap and easy way out of things and railroad disgusting sometimes, but its in apparently weak. you look like the weaker party. remember stop doyle, stop lying about my record, i worked in the white house with george bush. >> yeah, that was effective. >> bush lied, people died. we had liars thrown at us all the time and bush still got his war funded. he inherently makes you look week. it's not just the harshness, i think people tune that out. >> doesn't romney have to be prepare
and you notice joe biden did not use that. he said mularkey which is another way of saying the same thing. i think they will turn off a lot of independents if they keep pushing this lier and dishonesty lying. >> the governor of pennsylvania said, instead of just going on attack, what obama really needs in the next two debates is to actually tell people what he's going to do in a second term. >> exactly. >> to say why this next four years is actually going to make your life...
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>> i think obviously joe biden is 69 years old. paul ryan is 42 years old. 27-year difference, but on all of these issues the two went at it, and i thought paul ryan -- he went toe to toe on national security foreign policy issues with the vice president who has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe biden during this dae bait. people can dmran about some stylistic maneuvers and the hands and the smiles and the smirks and all that kind of stuff, but there were no major verbal gaffs or anything by either of these candidates. i think it was a pretty good substantive debate. >> okay. so now i want to jump to something that's sort of unusual. i don't often hear pundits discuss this part of the debate. it was the very end, the stuff you're not usually supposed to be watching. it was when the families came up on the stage. i don't know about you, but
>> i think obviously joe biden is 69 years old. paul ryan is 42 years old. 27-year difference, but on all of these issues the two went at it, and i thought paul ryan -- he went toe to toe on national security foreign policy issues with the vice president who has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe...
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joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious
joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious